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Good afternoon guys.
I know that I've read it here before , but I can't find it.
When cold my girl starts no problem. Plenty of power to starter. When it is warm. It struggles to turn over the starter.
I am thinking it is in the starter. Correct. Should I plan for a rebuild?
It MIGHT be the starter, but before removing the starter make sure the battery is fully charged. Make sure the fluid level is up, it has at least 12.5V across the terminals without the engine running, make sure your charging system is putting out 13 to 14V at various rpm and if you can, check the specific gravity of the fluid in each cell of the battery with a hydrometer.
Make sure all cable connections are clean of dirt and corrosion and are tight.
In the mean time, if the bike is hot and the starter will not spin the engine to life, try opening the throttle all the way BEFORE using the starter button.
If the battery is good, terminals are clean and tight, the starter will have to come out.
Put the bike in its center stand.
Drop the exhaust (remove all 8 nuts and loosen the hanger bolts and the headers wil drop to the ground, out of the way.
Try removing the starter without removing any of the exhaust studs. It can be done.
When I took mine out, the grease inside was like dry clay and wouldn't allow the planetarium to spin freely.
You may also have a high build up of carbon dust from the two brushes which will cause high resistance.
Read the posts on how to remove, clean, update, test and reinstall.

It makes for good reading! Smile

-Ride On
trouble on hot restarts is the sign that the starter needs at least a cleaning if not new brushes and lubing
Hey Marty, my bike did the exact same thing, I took the starter off and cleaned it out.
There was so much crap inside when it got hot and expanded it would jam the stater.
I cleaned it out and put the starter together again and it has worked great for the last 2 years.
Thanks guys.
I was sure the starter would have to come off. I was just hoping someone would say, "hit it with a hammer and you'll be fine."
I am going to start taking it apart soon so I can get it painted. I'll do it then.
By the way.
If anybody can reccommend a good painter in the Kitchener area. I'd be grateful.

Thanks, Marty
(08-12-2013, 12:20 PM)Marty B Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks guys.
I was sure the starter would have to come off. I was just hoping someone would say, "hit it with a hammer and you'll be fine."
I am going to start taking it apart soon so I can get it painted. I'll do it then.
By the way.
If anybody can reccommend a good painter in the Kitchener area. I'd be grateful.

Thanks, Marty

Well. I finally did it. Took the body off for painting. Hope I can get it back together. While I'm that deep. I took the starter off as well. Just so every one knows. It will take about an hour to get the starter out if you don't drop the manifold headers. That's how long it will take you to realize you have to drop the headers. I also had to remove the manifold stud closest to the starter. Once you do that, the starter practically falls out.
I hope after I get the starter rebuilt. It will fall "IN".
..... with the body panels off, and the bike laying on its right side, you might be able to have it 'fall in' if you give it a perfect spiral from across the room......

Just kidding.
Not even a professional would attempt this.

Once the bike panels are back on be sure to post pictures!!!!!!
(10-15-2013, 11:39 AM)bs175dths Wrote: [ -> ]..... with the body panels off, and the bike laying on its right side, you might be able to have it 'fall in' if you give it a perfect spiral from across the room......

Just kidding.
Not even a professional would attempt this.

Once the bike panels are back on be sure to post pictures!!!!!!

When you go to put the starter back in, rest the bike on the kickstand (not the centerstand) to make the starter gear line up better. It can be a problem if the bike is on the center stand because the gear and chain will hang to the right and may not line up correctly.
(10-15-2013, 10:01 PM)PurpleGL1200 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-15-2013, 11:39 AM)bs175dths Wrote: [ -> ]..... with the body panels off, and the bike laying on its right side, you might be able to have it 'fall in' if you give it a perfect spiral from across the room......

Just kidding.
Not even a professional would attempt this.

Once the bike panels are back on be sure to post pictures!!!!!!

When you go to put the starter back in, rest the bike on the kickstand (not the centerstand) to make the starter gear line up better. It can be a problem if the bike is on the center stand because the gear and chain will hang to the right and may not line up correctly.

Well. I thought after that little tidbit of info. I'd be in trouble. I took the front wheel off to get the fender off and didn't put it back on yet. I have a jack holding up the front end as well as a tool box under the forks as back up and the center stand. Now what? Well if you put the Clymer manual under the right center stand leg and let it down with the jack, The bike will tilt just enough to let the starter sprocket swing into the center and line right up.
I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP. It took 15 minutes to get the starter in and running again. I would like to be that lucky next time I'm in a Casino.

1060dsl

(10-15-2013, 10:01 PM)PurpleGL1200 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-15-2013, 11:39 AM)bs175dths Wrote: [ -> ]..... with the body panels off, and the bike laying on its right side, you might be able to have it 'fall in' if you give it a perfect spiral from across the room......

Just kidding.
Not even a professional would attempt this.

Once the bike panels are back on be sure to post pictures!!!!!!

When you go to put the starter back in, rest the bike on the kickstand (not the centerstand) to make the starter gear line up better. It can be a problem if the bike is on the center stand because the gear and chain will hang to the right and may not line up correctly.

Ive heard that before as well but I have always taken em off and put them back on while on the center stand.
Quote:It will take about an hour to get the starter out if you don't drop the manifold headers. That's how long it will take you to realize you have to drop the headers.

LOL, thats funny