Hope you all can help.
I managed to get the bike to idle sort of at an irratic 860 - 940 -1040 - 860 rpm, then when i give it a little throttle the whole engine seem unbalanced.
I went to check the timing on the pulley's and they line up correctly, but the crank pulley is marked at the same marking on the left hand side and not at 12 O'clock as stated in the manual. Ah you say you've found the problem. So i took of the inspection cover for the TDC line up and that was correct at per manual. So i assume the disc is just marked as for refference by someone else.
I then went to look at the Clymer manual and to do the gaps and check to see if that was set up but could get my head around it as i'm a hands on person. So could someone put into simple english the correct order of checking these in the correct sequence.
Also looking at this and i'm just looking at conformation here.... i noticed that in the manuals i pictures 2 crank pick ups and on my bike there is only one !!!!!
And now the final problem is that a majority of the time when i go to fire up the bike the whole electrical system seems to drain the whole battery (even a new one) and struggle to turn the bike over........ i also assume that there is a major short curcuit somewhere too.
i know its a lot here and look forward to some positive help as i plan a touring holiday in the Alps of europe with this bike ............. but seems too far away at the moment ...... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Hi Steve, I'm sure there will be a few people a lot more knowledgeable than I am along to help. In the mean time, Did you just change your belts? If not it's less likely to be your problem. What year is your bike? There are some differences with the 84. Have you puled your plugs? Are they wet, dry? Do they all spark? When was the last time the bike ran well and what happened when that changed?
Also, if the battery is getting drained while trying to start that may be your starter. New brushes and a good cleaning works wonders.
Its a 1985 ltd model ................ i just find it odd and have check everything i can think of plugs , gaps , spark is good, cleaned all terminals , checked injectors, HT leads conections, fuel pressure, only thing is i need it to run right so i can balance the running from left to right .... i think .
I've got to go to work so this will be a quick post with a suggestion: Try checking each plug wire with an inductive timing light. That should tell you if you've got fire going to each plug. Also the Ltd Ed and the SEi has a small parasitic drain on the battery to maintain the memory in the travel computer. The rough running you're describing might be no fire to 2 cylinder's or the engine need's to be balanced left to right side,,,,,,, Badly!!!
Hope this help's some and Welcome to the Site!!
i have good spark on all and noticed no 1 cylinder plug was wet with fuel with an intermitant fire when idling. ........ i have changed coils for a new set and will balancing the card do with an vaccum gauge set !!! ??
Steve,
On you only having 1 crank pickup. On the fuel injected models there is 1 at the crank & 1 on the back of the right cylinder head.
Poorboy
Poorboy Wrote:Steve,
On you only having 1 crank pickup. On the fuel injected models there is 1 at the crank & 1 on the back of the right cylinder head.
Poorboy
yep got that !
Walter Wrote:When was the last time the bike ran well and what happened when that changed?
Walter nailed it. How long have you had the bike. Has it always run poorly and if not when did it start and what has changed. You could be fighting one problem or a multitude. It can't be diagnosed correctly with vague information. Give us some more history.
glhonda Wrote:Walter Wrote:When was the last time the bike ran well and what happened when that changed?
Walter nailed it. How long have you had the bike. Has it always run poorly and if not when did it start and what has changed. You could be fighting one problem or a multitude. It can't be diagnosed correctly with vague information. Give us some more history.
Previous owner thought there was an injection problem and no ECU lights ........i'm am awaiting aa email from the one prior to him as he was riding it before him...... i remember there was a fault with running but can't remember what .... will update shortly ......
roscoepc Wrote:I've got to go to work so this will be a quick post with a suggestion: Try checking each plug wire with an inductive timing light. That should tell you if you've got fire going to each plug. Also the Ltd Ed and the SEi has a small parasitic drain on the battery to maintain the memory in the travel computer. The rough running you're describing might be no fire to 2 cylinder's or the engine need's to be balanced left to right side,,,,,,, Badly!!!
Hope this help's some and Welcome to the Site!!
sent you a PM
Right email arrived after chatting to a good helper Roscoepc ............ the fault started when the bike was being riden home and then it started to missfire intermittantly and then constantly by the time he got home ???? possibly the crank pick up or the right hand cylynder pulse gen !!! ??
went to balance the carbs and thier was no joy just ran faster on one side and create loads of fumes......... tested the pulse gen or cam angle sensor and resistance was at 165 in the manual it says it should be 295 i also did the gap on that between the cam and sensors just in case.
Surely with these running issues the ECU should have pciked up the faults !!
I'm not real familiar with the SEI or LTD systems, but I got to believe they have much in common with conventional fuel injection systems...
There are several areas I would be checking on... First , I'd insure the throttle bodies were cleaned and balanced to each other (mechanically)... Then I would insure the fuel injectors are all cleaned and flow balanced (several places you can send them for that)... Next, I'd verify all the settings (like air flow bypass etc) are set to factory initial settings... I'd run a fuel system pressure test (after changing the fuel filter of course)...
And finally I'd run a cylinder compression test... Installing new plugs couldn't hurt either... This should pretty much cover the mechanic side of the fuel injection system... Once you get to this point you can start with the system control functions (areas the ECU handles)...
All the above assumes you have already verified other mechanical things like timing belt positions and all engine wiring and connectors etc...
Down load this manual and look on page 62 for the testing of the fuel system...
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Thanks but i've been through that and i think its either the crank sensor or the pulse gen malfunctioning !!! :cry: